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	<title>Comments on: Piglets Pounded Against Concrete: Depravity of the Pork Industry</title>
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		<title>By: Twyla Francois</title>
		<link>http://nothoney.com/2009/09/02/piglets-pounded-against-concrete-depravity-of-the-pork-industry/#comment-2623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twyla Francois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all,

I just read your comments and you&#039;re exactly right re the &quot;humane&quot; meat labels.  I provided the response below to another person who brought this up.  It&#039;s a difficult thing we struggle with as we know consumption of any meat product (thus I&#039;m vegetarian/mostly vegan) is inherently cruel and requires the suffering of an animal.  The worry is that if we don&#039;t include these statements about trying to eat less cruelly we alienate a certain proportion of the public who are not yet ready to go veg.  I struggle with this myself and wish I didn&#039;t have to include statements like this at the end of my videos so I was glad to read your comments ;&gt;  Ok, onto my response:

&quot;That&#039;s a good point and no, we don&#039;t know with any level of certainty that certified free-range farms are not killing piglets in this manner.

If someone were still interested in purchasing pork they need to do their due diligence and request the criteria required for the label they are buying.

Most humane labels don&#039;t involve many basic things we all assume they do (the one that thankfully does however is the BCSPCA label. Kudos to them!). For most others though, transportation, livestock auctions, collecting stations and slaughter are all NOT covered under most humane certification programs. Many producers simply have one barn with the higher standards but the rest of their barns in the industrial standard. They use this one barn to mislead the public into believing all products from that farm/producer are humane, when in fact they are not.

Be very wary when purchasing humanely-labeled products. They are - hopefully - produced in a less cruel manner but the key words here are &quot;less cruel&quot;, not more humane.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I just read your comments and you&#8217;re exactly right re the &#8220;humane&#8221; meat labels.  I provided the response below to another person who brought this up.  It&#8217;s a difficult thing we struggle with as we know consumption of any meat product (thus I&#8217;m vegetarian/mostly vegan) is inherently cruel and requires the suffering of an animal.  The worry is that if we don&#8217;t include these statements about trying to eat less cruelly we alienate a certain proportion of the public who are not yet ready to go veg.  I struggle with this myself and wish I didn&#8217;t have to include statements like this at the end of my videos so I was glad to read your comments ;&gt;  Ok, onto my response:</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s a good point and no, we don&#8217;t know with any level of certainty that certified free-range farms are not killing piglets in this manner.</p>
<p>If someone were still interested in purchasing pork they need to do their due diligence and request the criteria required for the label they are buying.</p>
<p>Most humane labels don&#8217;t involve many basic things we all assume they do (the one that thankfully does however is the BCSPCA label. Kudos to them!). For most others though, transportation, livestock auctions, collecting stations and slaughter are all NOT covered under most humane certification programs. Many producers simply have one barn with the higher standards but the rest of their barns in the industrial standard. They use this one barn to mislead the public into believing all products from that farm/producer are humane, when in fact they are not.</p>
<p>Be very wary when purchasing humanely-labeled products. They are &#8211; hopefully &#8211; produced in a less cruel manner but the key words here are &#8220;less cruel&#8221;, not more humane.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nothoney</title>
		<link>http://nothoney.com/2009/09/02/piglets-pounded-against-concrete-depravity-of-the-pork-industry/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nothoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No worries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
		<link>http://nothoney.com/2009/09/02/piglets-pounded-against-concrete-depravity-of-the-pork-industry/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh pardon, missed the quotes. Now it makes more sense coming from you guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh pardon, missed the quotes. Now it makes more sense coming from you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: nothoney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nothoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See the quotes around the statement about free-range farms? Yeah, that means neither I nor Kestrel said or wrote that. It comes from Twyla Francois, and that&#039;s who should question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the quotes around the statement about free-range farms? Yeah, that means neither I nor Kestrel said or wrote that. It comes from Twyla Francois, and that&#8217;s who should question.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only buy from certified free-range farms? Really? Don&#039;t those pigs go to slaughter the same way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only buy from certified free-range farms? Really? Don&#8217;t those pigs go to slaughter the same way?</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://nothoney.com/2009/09/02/piglets-pounded-against-concrete-depravity-of-the-pork-industry/#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for getting the word out.  There must be a large number of seriously disturbed individuals willing to work in this cruel industry. My hope is that as the word gets out, people will not support the industry. However, so far, I have noted the desire NOT to know, to look the other way, so people don&#039;t have to deal with the reality.  I wish I knew how to overcome that barrier.  Here&#039;s to keep on keeping on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for getting the word out.  There must be a large number of seriously disturbed individuals willing to work in this cruel industry. My hope is that as the word gets out, people will not support the industry. However, so far, I have noted the desire NOT to know, to look the other way, so people don&#8217;t have to deal with the reality.  I wish I knew how to overcome that barrier.  Here&#8217;s to keep on keeping on!</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://nothoney.com/2009/09/02/piglets-pounded-against-concrete-depravity-of-the-pork-industry/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kestrel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for posting this! Readers, please cross post widely..and there is a flyer at the end you can circulate about the live burnings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this! Readers, please cross post widely..and there is a flyer at the end you can circulate about the live burnings</p>
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